Powerful, unaccountable, and operating far in the shadows, the Lords of Secrecy, as author Scott Horton calls them, are real, and they are in charge of our national security state.Horton, a lawyer, journalist and human rights advocate, makes the case in his book, Lords of Secrecy: The National Security Elite and America’s Stealth Foreign Policy, that because the public is allowed to know so little, it has effectively been cut out of national security decisionmaking.I had a chance to ask Horton some questions earlier this week. Here is an edited transcript:Who are the Lords of Secrecy? Name me three.The Lords of Secrecy are the heads of the national security and intelligence agencies who exercise the power to create secrets.But I think we have to designate, as the dark overlord of the Lords of Secrecy, Richard Bruce Cheney. I don’t think there’s anybody else who even comes close. The man who invented stamps with his own special security classifications. He is a cult figure for the Lords of Secrecy.But I would say it’s the heads of the NSA, CIA and various other agencies.